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Benjamin
Modified 27 boat 381 out of fleet
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Friday Night Jack Attack / Saradota Sailing Squadron

BotanicaIs ready for the full moon...

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guymon
Stiletto 27 standard
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Fastest Setup

guymon
Stiletto 27 standard
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RonHoodin
Stiletto 27 Catamaran
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TILLER RAISES WHILE SAILING

Thanks Peter. I'll give those ideas a try. Ron
RonHoodin
Stiletto 27 Catamaran
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TILLER RAISES WHILE SAILING

Friends, I have owned and sailed my Stiletto 27 for several years now and this year an issue has come up that some of you may have experienced. When I'm sailing fast (say above 8 knots) the starboard tiller begins to lift out of its casing. The lifting up of the starboard tiller is more pronounced than the port one on either tack. If I let it go, the rudder actually comes up out of the water. I tried to bungee the tiller down and that may have helped somewhat but has not prevented it entirely. I'd appreciate any feedback in solving this problem. Any suggestions? Ron
Replied: Peter
Modified Stiletto 27
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Replying to Ron Hoodin comments:There should be a white plastic eyestrap on top of your tiller, above the pintles & gudgeons. A length of fairly heavy bungee is supposed to be threaded through that, extending down both sides of the rudder head and looped under the lower pintle. It should be tensioned tight enough to hold the rudder down, but not so tight that the tiller doesn't have full range of motion. That should take care of local sailing.

If you're planning to sail hard offshore, you can drill a 3/16" diameter hole through the rudder cheek plates and tiller arm; and insert a wooden dowel. The dowel will shear if you hit something hard.

Peter
Peter
Modified Stiletto 27
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DEUCE COUPE SOLD

After 14 years of enjoyment, Christopher and I have sold Deuce Coupe to Travis Yates in Sarasota. He's an active performance sailor, so the Sarasota fleet has gained a good boat.

We still have Dream Date, so we will be reassembling, re-launching and sailing her for now. My hope is that we will come across another someone to buy her and jump into the Stiletto fun.

I've noticed that the best way to get me creating new boats is to take away the ones I have. The vacuum created is bound to suck something cool into being... some events have occurred lately (like selling my favorite boat) that have me interested in doodling a new 26-27'cat.

Peter

stilleto
Looking to Buy
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MAIN HALYARD ROPE

I am looking to replace my main halyard rope on a Stilleto 23 that is not raced but used in heavy wind situations. I am looking for suggestions as per correct size/diameter, //// per replacement type: Vectran vs dyneema vs T900 vs spectra, single braid vs double braid, acceptable breaking strength, //// and also per debate of knot vs key shackle/captive pin with bar (vs snap shackle) on headboard. Thanks in advance!

Steve
Replied: stiletto
Stiletto 27 GT
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Replying to Steve Garrah comments: The stock 23' main halyard is 5/16" line with 5/32" 7x19 wire spliced. This works well with least amount of friction when raising and lowering with minimal stretch. All line 8mm will also work. I can supply you with either one. Ron
Replied: stilleto
Looking to Buy
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Replying to Ron Nicol comments: Thank you Ron for your quick response. I have visited your shop in the past to purchase parts and really enjoyed viewing the available boats. I will contact you directly for details and may have a friend passing through in early June for a pickup.

Steve
Dive407
23
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DRY SAIL 23 FROM TRAILER

Can anyone tell me how to safely hoist my S23 using a 4000 lb hoist with 8 foot arm designed to drysail Solings (4k lb capacity). I do not anticipate beam as an issue but am looking for specific info on lift harness attachment points (presumably 4?) and the balance point of the boat to prevent any nasty incidents.
cheers

Dave
Replied: Peter
Modified Stiletto 27
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Replying to Dave Nurse comments: I've done it a number of times by rigging a 3-point sling. The front two legs go around the main beam, right next to the hulls - so you can get it past the trampoline in the corners. The third leg goes to the center of the rear beam. An alternative for the third leg is to use the mainsheet. The tackle allows you to adjust the angle of the boat. Depending on how it is loaded, the CG should be about 12-18" behind the mast. Depending on the hoist, you may want to lift it slightly bow down, to keep the hoist from banging on the mast.

Peter
Replied: EliLauritsen
Stiletto 23
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Replying to Dave Nurse comments:

Never actually used a hoist to launch my boat but I've read on the forums here that you should attach on the middle and aft crossbeams close to the hull. Balance point shouldn't be a problem but a safety line to the centre of the forward beam would be advised I'd think.
ricstief
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STRIPPED BOLTS

21 has threads stripped on the long cross arm hold down bolt. Any ideas for an easy fix?
Replied: EliLauritsen
Stiletto 23
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Replying to Ric Steeves comments:

Not easy per se but using a die to cut new threads could work. Had some issues with the bolts on my 23 and a tap & die set fixed it right up.
guymon
Stiletto 27 standard
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NEW TRAMP, LOOKS GREAT

A week before I launched my boat, I noticed my trampoline was looking really bad, with all rotted stitching. This thing had 15+ years of use on it. I called Ron at Stiletto hoping he might have one in stock. He did and he shipped it that day. I had it before the week-end. Wow it really makes the boat look good. Thanks Ron!

DBFitz
Stiletto 27 SE, four 27 Stds,S30
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S30 TRANSPORT

A few weeks ago I sold one of my S27's and delivered it to Atlanta from WI. I put it right on top of my 34ft powerboat trailer while it was still on it's own trailer. Very easy to load and unload I must say.

Then continued on to Palmetto FL to pick up my first S30. I had already pre-fabbed a few special fixtures for the trailer to convert it for the S30 transport. Chris Ferrante (previous owner)had the basic hull configuration all planned out and I used his ideas. It's pretty simple, first both hulls are raised 24" off the trailer bed, with one hull flipped and reversed. Loading was very easy, we used a crane to lift the hulls onto the trailer. The 30 actually towed easier than the 27 had on the way down because it had less frontal area protruding above the truck thus less wind resistance.

The trip home was uneventful,with lots of people asking either "what is that!?" or "how many boats do you have there, one or two?" Unloading was quite easy, just picked the hulls up with straps & my payloader, then rolled the inverted hull upright on foam blocks.

Trailer & loaded S30 were only 8"6" wide thus legal without permits. Trailer used was a 34ft tri-axle Loadmaster. Pictures are in Port 2015, any questions just ask. Now the fun part, I plan to add either wave-piercing or plumb bows,30" stern extensions, 44ft mast and anything else I can think of.....
Replied: guymon
Stiletto 27 standard
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Replying to Doug Fitzgerald comments:

Holy Cow Doug! Thats pretty ingenious with the 30 on the trailer. The 27 with trailer on the big trailer cracked me up. Congrats on the 30!
Replied: DBFitz
Stiletto 27 SE, four 27 Stds,S30
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Replying to Guy Grafius comments: Hey Guy, first of all let me thank you again for maintaining this web site- it's a great source for all Stiletto owners and we all really appreciate your efforts to keep it going- thank you!

The story of my first S30 is quite interesting-back in Jan. of 2005 I was all set to buy a 30 from Ed Faidiga in Ohio, the price was pretty much agreed on and things looked good. Sadly for me just before it happened I got very sick with Lyme disease and had to call the whole deal off.... Then in Sept.2014 Chris Ferrante sold me his 30 from Palmetto, FL and lo and behold it turned out to be the exact same boat I almost bought 10 years ago! I guess fate said it was going to happen eventually....

The 27 & trailer loaded onto another trailer was simple because luckily the Harding trailer tire width fit exactly on the main frames of my Loadmaster trailer! - I just used the existing trailer winch to pull it up some oak 2x8 ramps I made and unloaded it the same way in Atlanta, very easy, a one person operation even.


As for the S30 trailer idea, Chris F initially came up with the general overall idea and it worked perfectly.I pre-made the raised frames in WI,then dropped off the 27 in Atlanta,then simply bolted the already built frames on in FL and loaded the 30. I used the mast supports off my other 27 trailer, the rear one had to be moved slightly off-center to clear the stbd hull but otherwise everything fit just as we expected-I set the whole trailer up in WI beforehand using only some hull measurements from Chris in FL and the 30 fit on it perfectly in FL!! Now that's good planning.... So yeah, anyone with a small front end loader could do the same thing,we used a crane to lower the mast but a long truss-setting type pole on the loader or skidster would work to lower the mast also. It helps to have a nice long trailer like I had too of course, plenty of room for the bridgedeck, etc.

So after owning five different 27s (and three of them at the same time for ten years)I finally got a 30, can't wait to try it out in May. I put a few more pictures up in Port 2015 that show the trailer details better.
Tango
Stiletto 27
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RETRIEVAL AFTER A CAPSIZE

I sold my Stiletto 27 two years ago after 6 years of great sailing and I now own a Corsair trimaran, but I come back once in a while to hear about the Stiletto family. When sailing a light multihull you always have in your mind the remote possibility of a capsize. Fortunately this never happened to me. I had always thought that righting an overturned multi should be done by pulling from the side. But I have read that this is not the way to do it and that this method does the most damage on the boat. The way to do it is to right bow-over-stern. Here are 2 videos that show how it is done.

VID 00000-20100718-1326.3GP

Saving Private Trimaran and Phils Bellybutton

I hope none of you ever has to right yout cat, but this information might be useful

Paul

stiletto
Stiletto 27 GT
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STILETTO 27

We have several Stiletto 27's for sale in the 15-25K range. Call or e-mail for more info.
Ron Nicol 941-350-WIND
Replied: gdwill
27' SE
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Replying to Ron Nicol comments: Hey Ron ....saw the boats on the for sale section....really sweet...you got the touch !!!
caribcapt
Stiletto 27 SE
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BEST COCKPIT CUSHION INSTALLATION METHOD?

Hello everyone, I found a great company in Texas (C Cushion) to make the cockpit cushions for both sides for $770 dollars. The only missing piece to the puzzle is whether to utilize snaps or a bolt rope to secure the cushions in place when the boat is under way. Any suggestions from experience on this? I prefer the bolt rope and my idea is to install the feeder track on the front edge of the cockpit seat area to try to eliminate the sheet lines from getting stuck underneath and lifting the cushions up during sailing maneuvers. Any thoughts or advice would greatly be appreciated. Cheers! - Capt. Eric
Replied: eugene1
standard stiletto 27
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Reply: I had my cushions made in two sections for each side. On the back of each cushion I had 3 loops sewed in. I have small u shaped bracket on each end of the fiberglass cockpit. I use a small snap shackle to attach to each bracket. I run a single piece of shock cord through the total of the six loops and attach on each end. This allows the cushions to be easily attached and secured during sailing.
cell phone is 412 601 4232 call for any more details.
God BLess, Gene
Replied: eugene1
standard stiletto 27
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Reply: I had my cushions made in two sections for each side. On the back of each cushion I had 3 loops sewed in. I have small u shaped bracket on each end of the fiberglass cockpit. I use a small snap shackle to attach to each bracket. I run a single piece of shock cord through the total of the six loops and attach on each end. This allows the cushions to be easily attached and secured during sailing.
cell phone is 412 601 4232 call for any more details.
God BLess, Gene
Replied: thouse
Stiletto 27 Std. Editon
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Replying to Eugene Scarberry comments:

Gene, I did much the same thing. However, my modificaton included ensuring that the foam on the inside of the cushion was closed cell foam. That helpd avoid water absorsion and if the boat goes over or in a MOB situation, the cushion(s) make for somethng floatable to hang on to or throw.

The other modificaiton I made was to cut the top 12-14 inches off a couple of old solid closed cell floating pool mattresses. They each have a section that is rolled over to double the thickness for the last six inches or so on the mattresses' top.

I like using these to add a bit more "comfy cushioning" to my backside when long distance sailing. The rolled section placed towards the boat's centerline help keep me in place when the boat is heeling.

Wow, now all I need is a bit of sun to warm up these cold Utah temperatures and to thaw out the boat for some more fun in the sun or another tirp to the warm Sea of Cortez.

It is summer yet???

Merry Chirstmas, happy holidays, and my best to all those who help make and keep this site running and a great plce to visit.

We all have much to be thankful for, including the things that are hard and can help to make us stronger and wiser, and the friends who help us through such times.

Tom
Replied: thouse
Stiletto 27 Std. Editon
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Replying to Eugene Scarberry comments:

Gene, I did much the same thing. However, my modificaton included ensuring that the foam on the inside of the cushion was closed cell foam. That helpd avoid water absorsion and if the boat goes over or in a MOB situation, the cushion(s) make for somethng floatable to hang on to or throw.

The other modificaiton I made was to cut the top 12-14 inches off a couple of old solid closed cell floating pool mattresses. They each have a section that is rolled over to double the thickness for the last six inches or so on the mattresses' top.

I like using these to add a bit more "comfy cushioning" to my backside when long distance sailing. The rolled section placed towards the boat's centerline help keep me in place when the boat is heeling.

Wow, now all I need is a bit of sun to warm up these cold Utah temperatures and to thaw out the boat for some more fun in the sun or another tirp to the warm Sea of Cortez.

It is summer yet???

Merry Chirstmas, happy holidays, and my best to all those who help make and keep this site running and a great plce to visit.

We all have much to be thankful for, including the things that are hard and can help to make us stronger and wiser, and the friends who help us through such times.

Tom
Replied: Peter
Modified Stiletto 27
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Replying to Tom House comments: Tom - C-Cushions are some sort of closed cell foam that they somehow heat seal the surface of. They're pretty cool - you might want to check them out. It's a family business run by really nice people. The son of the founders was an early Stiletto sailor. I remember that the early cushions were slippery when wet, but they've probably dealt with that by now.

I agree that loops are better than snaps. Snaps are destined to fail in a salt marine environment.
guymon
Stiletto 27 standard
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# 11

Cruising World list the Stiletto Catamaran as number 11 in "The 40 Best Catamarans And Trimarans. Ever".

Quoted:
The one-of-a-kind Stiletto 27 was conceived and built by a pair of young Floridian entrepreneurs beginning around 1979. One of the most remarkable things about this "beach cat on steroids" was its aircraft-like construction, the core of which was pre-preg Nomex honeycomb, which kept the hulls light yet bulletproof.

CW: The 40 Best Catamarans And Trimarans. Ever

Replied: jmelvinkc@bellsouth.net
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Replying to Guy Grafius comments:
Replied: jmelvinkc@bellsouth.net
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Replying to Guy Grafius comments:
Guy
Thanks for the link! A good read.
jmelvinkc@bellsouth.net
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NOT AN OWNER YET

I just joined your forum. If anyone knows of a nice 27' stiletto for sale I would be interested in knowing about it. Also owners comments on what to look for or look out for is appreciated. I used to race Hobie and prindles in the 80's owned one monohull mistake and after 20 years am ready to get back into the sport. Mostly I need advise.
Replied: stiletto
Stiletto 27 GT
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Replying to Jack Melvin comments: Jack, We have several nice Stiletto 27's for sale. We are located in Venice, FL. You can contact me at ron@stilettocatamarans.com or call 941-350-WIND
Replied: jmelvinkc@bellsouth.net
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Replying to Ron Nicol comments: Thanks Ron, you directed some information my way a couple of weeks ago and I will be in touch with you on those offerings too
Thanks!
Replied: Peter
Modified Stiletto 27
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Replying to Jack Melvin comments: I have two highly modified and upgraded Stiletto 27's, Deuce Coupe and Dream Date, available for sale. You can look up Deuce Coupe in the Online Info section and Dream Date in the Port 08 section; or contact me at pwormwood@tampabay.rr.com,

Peter
Replied: jmelvinkc@bellsouth.net
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Replying to Peter Wormwood comments: Thank you for your help

Jacks
hv2sail
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27 GT AND DECEMBER SAILING NEAR TAMPA

Hi folks, two question for you. How does the 27 gt hard deck differ from the standard 27 ?wider stance achieved by bolted on panels, tramps, or is it one piece?
Second question is for those familiar with st Petersburg/Sarasota area. I'm planning to vacation a couple of days in that area around the first week of December, and wondered about temperature and reliability of the winds for sailing my hobie wave. I'm also curious about any Bay side spots I could leave the boat rigged and beached overnight. May even call fort Desoto campground and see if they allow beach cats. Any advice would be appreciated.
Replied: Peter
Modified Stiletto 27
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Replying to Mark Boikin comments: The GT bridge deck is 2' wider than a standard deck and 1' shorter. At 10' wide, the bridge deck is too wide to fit the highway limits. So, the bridge deck was shortened to allow it to be turned sideways to fit the road limit.

In early December the Tampa Bay area weather will be mixed. If there is a front approaching, the wind will be out of the south and building as the front approaches. It will be the warmer and damper wind, from the moisture brought up from the Caribbean. Once the front passes, it will likely blow 15-22 out of the NW for a day or two before clocking into the east and dying. In the absence of a front it will be pretty light wind, probably out of the east. The water is cooling and the air will be cool after a front, so bring warm sailing clothes. More than likely, you will either be sailing in shorts, or fowl weather gear with a layer or two underneath.

I live in Palmetto, right across south Tampa Bay from the park, so I'm pretty familiar with the area. I'm pretty sure that the Everglades Challenge starts at Ft. Desoto, so a beach cat should be fine...

Peter
Replied: hv2sail
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Replying to Peter Wormwood comments: wow, that was fast! Thanks! You've completely filled in the gaps about the boat and the local conditions. I could only gather so much historical weather data, and first-hand local knowledge beats spreadsheets any day. So, now, would it be worth it to look for a gt deck, or modify my standard 27 deck which is broken along one side where a tree fell on it anyway. (The boat was a gt conversion project when I bought it for the mast, but decided to TRY to finish it. Already has daggers and extended beam tubes.)Thanks,again
stiletto
Stiletto 27 GT
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35TH STILETTO NATIONALS

CALLING ALL STILETTO SAILORS!!! The 8th Annual Buzzelli Multihull Rendezvous with the 35th Annual STILETTO NATIONALS is being held October 17-19, 2014 at Sarasota Sailing Squadron. Set your sails for a fun weekend of sailing and comraderie! A diverse & competitive multihull fleet is expected once again for this annual tradition. Starting Friday with the historic Long Distance Race in the beautiful Gulf of Mexico, followed by two epic days of buoy racing in Sarasota Bay.
Friday evening after the race will be Movie Night showing classic film of all the past Stiletto Nationals from the 80's till present
on a big screen! So gather your crew and set course for Sarasota,FL
For more info go to Buzzelli Multihull Rendezvous or call Sarasota Sailing Squadron at 941-388-2355
Peter
Modified Stiletto 27
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BUZZELLI REGATTA

I haven't seen any new posts on here for awhile; so I thought I'd stir it up by asking if any of you are planning to make the Buzzelli Regatta in Sarasota mid-October. I'll be there, for the first time not sailing a Stiletto; and for the first time in my life of 67 years, racing single handed. I got a little Weta tri, and have been having a blast playing with it. I race with input from my whole crew, so it will be interesting to have the whole committee inside my head...note to self - gotta buy a watch, no one to count down for you...

I'm trying to convince brother Chris to get a crew and bring Deuce Coupe...

Peter
Replied: guymon
Stiletto 27 standard
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Just looked up a Weta Tri. Looks like i has a bit more performance than a WindRider! Should be fun.
Replied: Peter
Modified Stiletto 27
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Replying to Guy Grafius comments: Yeah - the performance is even better than I expected...and a lot more forgiving than a small cat. I was looking for something with enough performance to satisfy me; that family and friends could play with - without me worrying. Now that I've had it for awhile, I would definitely recommend it as a simple alternative. Certainly a fun way to get sailing without much hassle.

Peter
Replied: eugene1
standard stiletto 27
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Peter there are several multihull boats in the 27 -14 foot range what would be your choice in a larger multi than the Weta tri but below the St 27 .
Gene Scarberry (season ends early Oct :( )
Replied: Peter
Modified Stiletto 27
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Replying to Eugene Scarberry comments: Gene -
Frankly, I haven't been paying a lot of attention to the new generation of mid-range multihulls, much less sailed them. Ican tell you that the three most important things to consider are: the venue you sail in, your budget, and how you intend to use the boat. A poop hot racing boat can be dangerous if you're a laid back cruiser who pays minimal attention...and it won't have the comfort. We would all like to have a carbon pre-preg/nomex honeycomb boat of the latest design, but that requires a budget well north of $50K and as much as $200K, but I maxed my play budget at $9K for a used 13' Weta. As for venue - you don't want a light air boat in a heavy air location or too short a boat for choppy water. Each of the boats I designed were wrapped around these 3 considerations. I suggest that if you fully evaluate them for yourself, you will be able to eliminate a lot of the choices.

That said, you might check out the Diam 24, the Multi 23, the Motive, and the Corsair 720.
Replied: eugene1
standard stiletto 27
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Replying to Peter Wormwood comments: Peter. thank you for the thoughtful reply.
Venue fresh water 7 mile long 2 mile wide lake just south of Lake Eire.average winds 5-15. seldom large waves.
season is late may to mid oct so a dryer boat is needed.
I am 6'6" tall and 71 years old and enjoy the back support of the hard section. looking toward the future when the Spirit 27 is too much for me.

Currently cruser sail almost every weekend with a lot of guests. Spirit has been gesserized to delay the future.

With these criteria the 27 has been a perfect boat fore needs and cost.
Most of the smaller boats like the Weta are adrenalin wet beach boats for 2-3 people.
Even the corsair 22 seems like a large reduction in people and handeling.
Thanks for letting me explore.
God Bless, Gene






wolfish
stilleto 27
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NEW MAIN

My new main is shipping or maybe delivered. 280 square feet from Dave Calvert to match the jib from same loft. However...I just rode into Zacatecas from Guadalajara through torrential rain and flooding. Good thing a KTM breathes through a snorkel. It was almost like boating, with high winds, hail, lightning and armed boarding by military officials. That last actually an army checkpoint blessedly sheltered from rain. Went through cursory search of packs on tailpiece. They were confused to see my curved soprano sax and wanted to hear me play it. so, I gave them one verse of "Cielito Lindo"-- practically a national anthem, popularized at the World Cup games and beer commercials internationally. Long story short, they lowered their weapons and sang along. I was back in the rain and soon in the old city center of culture and art. Hope this is not a highjack of the website. I meant to write about screachers, my next sail addition. Keep the foils pointing down and the flag halyards up.